why did lindsay crouse leave buffy

-- Let the Darwin fishes swim!------------------------------------http://www.darwin-fish.com/fish.html------------------------------------, > In article <3D075A59@rcn.com>, Carmikl > wrote:> > > > > Also, apparently at a convention where Jane Espenson was a panelist. Now a Giles/Maggie struggleover Buffy's soul could have been fascinating but a Buffy/Maggie struggleover Riley? Maggie Walsh was supposed to be a> > motherly type to Riley. [2], Lindsey's driving force was his ambition, largely in part due to his childhood poverty. Re-writes and character alterations happen all the time in T.V., but her direction shifts so radically so fast that it's always struck me as odd. Sunnydale in further> episodes before it was all revealed to us. They were only able to leave by the sacrifice of Gunn, who remained behind to take Lindsey's place. 2. Blucas, now 48, joined the cast of Buffy in 1999 and this was his first major TV role, with the show acting as a springboard to a long-running TV and film career. [citationneeded], Angel is given the amulet which Spike eventually uses to destroy the Hellmouth in Sunnydale. I still don'tthink he was; he was a fellow victim and should never have been playedas a big bad. If he was making silverbullets, it might be on a "Pascal's Wager" basis: if the legend IStrue, then using lead bullets is a way for him to get very quickly andvery messily dead. Smart guy! [12] Deposited, incorporeal, in Wolfram & Hart and unable to leave the city limits, Spike gradually grows attached to L.A. and reconsiders his initial intention to seek out Buffy in Europe, deciding to allow Buffy to remember him as a self-sacrificing hero. Joss has said that Lindsay Crouse was difficult to work with, which led him to killing her off/reducing her role sooner. Walsh appears in the penultimate episode of Season Four, "Primeval," as a zombie, working under Adam along with others Adam has killed. Lindsay Crouse's departure and S04's Big Bad arc : buffy - reddit Walsh initially thinks that Buffy can be a useful ally to the Initiative, but soon takes a dislike to her unpredictability and unwelcome curiosity, especially with regards to the "314 Project". "[18], Lindsey destroyed the Sahrvin Clan with Lorne's assistance as planned. I remember when I was a kid, I read a lot of vampire comics. Tara's death didn't even phase me. I mean, it's the year 2000 people, we almost thought the world was going to end because computers couldn't cope with the millennium bug and the Big Bad is a mutant hybrid demon with a built-in dial-up modem. She said that she was rathersurprised and disappointed uponhearing abou ther character's death. On the other hand, with only Lindsey and Lilah left of Wolfram & Hart's Special Projects Team, their rivalry reached an all-time high as the two start a power struggle for the vice-presidency of the team as at the time neither of them was deemed fit to take the title. Lahr also writes that Mamet got his first screenwriting assignment through Crouse. Too bad. Since Buffy is meant to be the central character surely thedrama should focus on a her rather than Riley. Opinion | Oscar-Nominated Film 'The Queen of Basketball': Lusia Harris >> If Seth Green handn't left, it would have been him lying dead on the, Previously on alt.tv.buffy-v-slayer, jlp@aol.comnospam wrote in, Previously on alt.tv.buffy-v-slayer, "Boozy Smurf \(aka Andrew Hatch/790, > > in season four, Maggie (Lindsay Crouse was going to be much more of a, >> We see Cain making his own bullets, but nothing is said about what, Did anyone else notice that Cain was the same guy as Sahrjon on Angel. For more information, please see our When Darla failed to persuade Angel to their side, thus stunting her mentality, Lindsey discovered he was in love with her despite her desire to become a vampire. Lindsay Crouse (@lindsaycrouse) / Twitter I disagree. I was really creeped out when he reanimated the corpses of Walsh and the other doctor. I figured it was just her and her grad students, capturing vampires and locking them up in the basements of the university, performing experiments that they couldn't perform on humans. Lindsey also worked with the ex-Watcher Rutherford Sirk to fake an addendum to the Shanshu Prophecy that the vampire with a soul must drink from the Cup of Perpetual Torment after apparently causing a disruption of reality that Eve claims is the result of there being two vampire champions with souls in an attempt to provoke a conflict between Angel and Spike that would result in Angel's death. She made her Broadway debut in the 1972 revival of Much Ado About Nothing and appeared in her first film in 1976 in All the President's Men. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The. He might have requirements(other than material) that aren't easily met with store bought bullets. "[2], Crouse has explained how her character was initially explained to her, "Joss tried to explain to me who this character was. There were other indications that an> > unknown force was at work in and around U.C. What did Maggie intend for Adam to do then? In fact, while, under the assumption that she'd left the show early, I used to think that that reanimated corpse prof Walsh (in Primeval) was just an extra in prosthetics, it turns out that it was actually herself (Crouse) coming back to the show as planned all along. Because their behavior was shown on national television, coupled with the loss of the money and their attempt to kill Angel was revealed, which was against the firm's policy, their new supervisor Nathan Reed told them that Angel's life was invaluable while they were replaceable. The Initiative project is shut down permanently. Lindsay Crouse wanted out of her contract so she was killed off. "[10] In 2007, Crouse opened a revival of The Belle of Amherst, a one-woman show about the life of poet Emily Dickinson, at the Gloucester Stage in Gloucester, Massachusetts. The vampires in Buffy don't exactly conform to traditional> standards. [INSIGHT]Buffy: How old was Sarah Michelle Gellar in Buffy The Vampire Slayer? DON'T MISSBuffy: Do Spike and Buffy really love each other? Adam may be ridiculous, but is also a fun and fitting Big Bad. A stunned Lindsey slumps against by a wall, outraged that he was killed by one of Angel's "flunkies" instead of the vampire himself. Lindsey insisted to Lorne that he had changed, offering to sing for him so Lorne might read his future. Perhaps with the intention of using them as police or even soldiers. Angel fought Darla for it at the event and Lindsey tried to protect her from Wolfram & Hart, which tried to kill her. Adamwas a last minute replacement as the Big Bad. Better safe than splattered. I'm not sure I'd have been desperately interested in the Maggie/Rileyrelationship. However, Angel knew that Lindsey could never be trusted, and he had secretly instructed Lorne to assassinate Lindsey once the Sahrvin demons were eliminated. Better safe than splattered.> > At least one traditional legend we have (as of now) been told is false:> several people in episodes have said that leprechauns do not exist. This was the first lesbian recurring character on a major network. Lindsay> > Crouse was signed for the whole season.> >. After Riley learns that Buffy is the Slayer, they inform Walsh of her role. Lindsay Crouse - a Best Supporting Actress Oscar nominee in 1985 for Places in the Heart - is a compelling presence as Dr Joan Allenby, a wronged woman who lives out a revenge fantasy after witnessing her lover cheating on her with a young colleague. But Crouse said this to Rafelson, who called Mamet; when the director asked why he should hire him for the screenplay, Mamet replied, "Because I'll give you a good screenplay or a sincere apology." As it was, it came off entirely as a"question authority" piece. No doubt Joss Whedon would have determined an appropriate and yet senseless way to slay Willow's significant other. To me she was always a secondarycharacter, I liked the character and the actress, but the death just didn'ttouch me. His intent was for Willow to be Season Six's Big Badand whoever her love was at the time would have to be sacrificed to push herover the edge. 1 Second Lead, Breaks for Starlight", "Actress brings third annual Buddhist retreat to Rockport. Lindsey and Eve. The three hired then-renegade Slayer Faith to assassinate him, promising to free her from her police charges and a doubled amount of payment. Professor Maggie Walsh is introduced in Season Four, as Buffy's Psychology professor at the University of California, Sunnydale, but is later revealed as the leader of the government-controlled Initiative, a military project intent on capturing, studying, and modifying the behavior of various demons. [13], Lindsey then initiated the next stage of his plan, making Spike corporeal again through a package sent to Spike at Wolfram & Hart. Her interview in The Watcher's Guide, vol. You are using an out of date browser. Sunnydale in further> > episodes before it was all revealed to us.> > --. [citationneeded]. Charisma Carpenter: Why did the Buffy actress leave as Cordelia? The plan was averted as Spike, Cordelia, and Angel were able to uncover Lindsey's actions. Since werewolves are fictional, there's no universal "rule" about how they must be portrayed. Before Angel left, Lindsey had the encounter digitally recorded and alerted the police. [citation needed] She received her acting training at HB Studio[7] in New York City. I was seven when they took the house, just came right in and took it.Lindsey McDonald, Born into a poor and dysfunctional family in the south-central United States, Lindsey worked hard to overcome his upbringing. --from a usenet discussion. "Carmikl" wrote in message. [7], Due to his and Lilah's achievements, they were congratulated at Holland's wine tasting party where Darla and Drusilla came and massacred everyone there, save for Lindsey and Lilah, as payback for being used as pawns. I think she/they (the initiative) wanted to create a "super-being" who could fight crime, kill demons etc, and then the scientists could continue to use the demon parts to create more "super-beings". There are just as many other werewolf stories out there that portray them as being normal humans when not in wolf form who can be killed just like any other person can be. [2] Lorne remarked he had heard him sing and shot Lindsey twice in the chest with a silenced pistol. Claiming to receive visions from the Powers That Be, he gained Spike's cooperation and trust. She's not a mean person, she's just a straight-out scientist. Darla, however, secretly used his feelings to gain information from Wolfram & Hart to obtain a mystical ring from the Senior Partners during the Review. Realising he could never truly be with her, he rejoined the military and took off on a helicopter, leaving Buffy standing helplessly below. I thought the character came into her own in season five and blossomed as the moral core of Buffy's gang this year. Sunnydale in further episodes before it was all revealed to us.-- Be seeing you,Growltiger, > > > > Lindsay Crouse wanted out of her contract so she was killed off. Buffy the Vampire Slayer spoilers: Who does Buffy end up with? [1][2], I guess it's fair to say you've never seen anything like real poverty. 2. Crouse's film career began in 1976, with small roles in television and theatrical movies. He was known for being a jock-like character, who was a part of a secret initiative to capture demons and study them. Dressed in his casual attire, Lindsey left Los Angeles and went on a soul-searching trip, including, amongst other places, Nepal. As his character grew in popularity, he was included as part of the credited cast in the show's titles. Lots of people make their own bullets. Harris wasn't playing for money, power or fame. LindsayCrouse was signed for the whole season. On a mission of redemption.I help the hopeless. ", Academy Award for Best Supporting Actress, Eleanor and Franklin: The White House Years, Beyond the Prairie: The True Story of Laura Ingalls Wilder, Beyond the Prairie, Part 2: The True Story of Laura Ingalls Wilder, "Anna E. Crouse, 97, Dies; Championed Discount Tickets for Broadway", "The Very (Very) Slow Rise of Lesbianism on TV - The New York Times", "Gloucester Stage Company plans five plays, Sunday readings for 29th season. Joss has said that Lindsay Crouse was difficult to work with, which led him to killing her off/reducing her role sooner. Per the outlet, "Angel . the middle of season 7 I wouldn't mind that one bit. Marc Blucas is an American actor who is best known for his role in the supernatural teen drama, Buffy The Vampire Slayer. Not bad, but the mix would have beenbetter. ", Christian Kane has said that he considered Lindsey to be driven in his hate for Angel during season 5 over losing Darla to him: "Even though I'm in love with Eve, Darla was a true love. A flunky?! Seth Green's loss wasdefinitely felt. Buffy Main Cast. You never will be.Lorne to Lindsey, Unlike most of Wolfram & Hart's other employees, Lindsey was not entirely devoid of a moral conscience. The Watcher's Guide is indeed one of the published interviews I was citing about Crouse's departure and Walsh's fate. Learning that Angel planned to expose the truth, they hired an old demon enemy of his to kill him. Buffy: How old was Sarah Michelle Gellar in Buffy The Vampire Slayer? An understanding that Willow found inconvenient as she used magic to empower her and increase her standing with Buffy. On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. Everybody."[8]. Kinda makes sense that she died, "Well, she's {Buffy} got an appointment with someone {Walsh} who's actually. Sleeper--'It's a library; only the stupid and the evil are afraid of those.' I'm a vampire with a soul.BUFFY: A vampire with a soul? [2][3] Lindsay Ann Crouse's full name is an intentional tribute to the Broadway writing partnership of Lindsay and Crouse, which consisted of her father and his writing partner, Howard Lindsay. What if Seth Green and Lindsay Crouse didn't bail out? - Google Groups Buffy: Why did Buffy and Riley split? Relationship explained Adam wasn't scary enough to be Big Bad on his own either, LOL. "To join the Clueless Club, send a followup to this message quoting everythingup to and including this sig!" ", Lindsey was originally going to appear in the "First Night" storyline of. Anthony Stewart Head, who played Buffy's watcher Rupert Giles, was only represented by an oil painting. ActuallyI think it would have upset me more to see Oz get shot infront of Willow. [2], In a final confrontation between Angel and Lindsey, the two buried the hatchet, and Lindsey warned him of the games Wolfram & Hart was trying to play. (Yeah, right, like I could tell if it was definitive based on a Usenet posting)-- ************************************************************************ Keith F. Goodnight, Anime Fan |"Pacifism only works ** Keeper of Annapuma's Script Crypt |if everybody feels the ** http://gsoft.smu.edu/ScriptCrypt/crypt.html|same." She> > said the Initiative storyline was something that they pulled out of, > > their hats at the last minute. [16] John Lahr writes in his book Show and Tell: New Yorker Profiles that when Mamet married Crouse in 1977, he "married into show business aristocracy". As near as I can tell, there really are no "traditional" standards for vampires, at least if by that you mean "going back into actual myths and legends." Lindsey then discovered that Darla had slept with Angel. riiighhht?) Or it could be that the Watcher's Guide is a fluff piece and that's really how it happened. "A Master in the Art of the Con. Unable to get within a good distance due to a cross Lindsey held, Angel threw a scythe at Lindsey, chopping off his right hand. She's like a President. Nike and Pregnancy: Your Questions, Answered - The New York Times I've seen other > published interviews that say Lindsay Crouse was disappointed to learn > her character was destind to die halfway through the season-- i.e. So, the story I *thought* I knew was that Prof Walsh was the planned Big Bad for the season, but then Crouse departed the show early for (?) She doesn't have the time for it. I really do believe that." Why did Buffy go to LA in season 4? Come to think of it, it does make sense that Adam was the planned Big Bad all along. She produced the Emmy-nominated Opinion Video series "Equal Play," which brought widespread reform to women's sports. See Lindsay Crouse full list of movies and tv shows from their career. We had a lot more planned for Seth Green> > (Oz), for example, but his departure> > > [to do films] opened the door for Tara (Amber Benson), which was> > something we never expected. and our ", Lindsay Crouse brings third annual Buddhist retreat to Rockport, Lindsay Crouse Summer Retreat in Massachusetts web site, Lindsay Crouse's Buddhist Teachings posted online at ACI-LA, Lindsay Crouse's additional Buddhist teachings posted online, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lindsay_Crouse&oldid=1133361838, Episode: "Rebecca McManus and Steve Arnold", Episode: "I've Got Batman in My Basement", Episodes: "Captain Kangaroo Court", "A Liver Runs Through It", Episodes: "Ted and Carey's Bogus Adventure", "Alice Doesn't Fit Here Anymore", Episodes: "Forgive, But Don't Forget", "Black Eye", "Sinners and Saints", "All Others Pay Cash", This page was last edited on 13 January 2023, at 11:35. It wasTara who got Willow down that path of heavy magic. He said that she was a scientist, and that she was going to be doing research and eventually, she might hatch an evil plot, but her front was being a psychology teacher. Meet Lindsay Crouse. After huge amounts of fan speculation on the idea, a vampirised Slayer finally did appear in the "Season Nine" comics. Crouse was on her way to audition for Bob Rafelson's 1981 remake of The Postman Always Rings Twice, and jokingly Mamet told Crouse to tell Rafelson that "he was a fool if he didn't hire me to write the screenplay." However, Adam awakens and impales Walsh, killing her, and escapes from the Initiative. There were indications that the Initiative existed from the> > first episode. Is it true that Maggie Walsh was the original planned season 4 Big Bad? Knocking him out with a kick to the head, Angel borrowed his truck to save Cordelia from a group of demons before returning it the next morning though heavily damaged. Willow was headed down that path anyway and Tara was a fellow traveller. Crouse viewed her character "no nonsense, and she seems to be a real teacher. But because of Lindsay Crouse having filming conflictions with her movie schedules they had to kill her off and write Adam in? The trailblazing basketball player died last month at age 66. Among them was the donor of Lindsey's hand, an old friend of his from his mailroom days. At some point, he began a relationship with Eve, the Liaison to the Senior Partners. Various creatures captured by the Initiative were dissected to provide the parts for Adam. > >> Though Cain, the werewolf hunter, did make a point of using silver> >> bullets> > > > We see Cain making his own bullets, but nothing is said about what they> > were made of.> > And why would he make his own bullets, then? She's rung down the curtain and joined the choir invisible. [5], Buffy writer David Fury said in an interview, "I don't think Joss had envisioned Maggie Walsh as being entirely villainous. Anyone realize the odd pacing of season 4 : buffy - reddit This transcript is intended to be used for criticism, comment, and research purposes. It should have been layered a bit with fans even sympathizing with Walsh. Ooh, didn't know that. If this or other postsmade through NewsOne.Net violate posting guidelines, email ab@newsone.net. Fans are keen to know why actor Blucas left the cast of Buffy, and Express.co.uk has investigated. ""Are you kidding? reasons and the Big Bad arc had to be redesigned around Adam. After a relationship with Robert Duvall,[15] Crouse married playwright David Mamet in 1977. Maggie Walsh - Wikipedia While it is true that the affinity began as a result of a common interest in magic, Willow was always portrayed as the more dominant partner. While Nike promotes gender equality in its ads, their sponsored athletes say they risk losing pay if they become pregnant. ", Fans continue to admire the actor and his role, with one commenting: "Marc seems to be one of the most intelligent and down to earth actors with an ego in its proper place. Although his deception is exposed and the Cup revealed to be a fake, Lindsey's plans were nevertheless served as Angel begins to doubt himself after losing to Spike. Apr 21, 2022. > > > Now that the first season is out on DVD, can you tell us about storylines that never made the cut?> > >> > > Actually, there were a lot of things we were going to do and never did. His departure really changed the direction of the series and Idoubt it would have been Oz who'd have died. Lindsay Ann Crouse is an American actress. She made her Broadway debut in the 1972 revival of Much Ado About Nothing and appeared in her first film in 1976 in All the President's Men. [19], You're not part of the solution, Lindsey. Wesley, unhappy with being forced to serve the Partners, shot those possibilities down, saying the presence of either alongside Angel would not help the Senior Partners get what they wanted, as the vampire would at worst ignore them and kill them at best. Green supposedly wanted a better storyline to showcase his talents (hey, yeah, hey being pretty much interchangable with Tara's lines). You must log in or register to reply here. And even if they were silver, maybe he just had a LoneRanger complex. See today's front and back pages, download the newspaper, order back issues and use the historic Daily Express newspaper archive. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. "You can't stop and recite something," says Crouse. I couldn't let that slide.Lindsey McDonald, Two years later, Lindsey finally returned to Los Angeles, when he learned that Angel has taken over the Los Angeles division of Wolfram & Hart. In many stories, it takes silver to kill a werewolf when it's in wolf form but the other 26 or so days of the month when they are human, they can be killed just like anyone else can. Episode review: Columbo Sex and the Married Detective The character is portrayed by Lindsay Crouse. Or just making sure. Marc Blucas: The actor played Riley Finn in Buffy, Marc Blucas: The actor played Buffy's boyfriend. Personally I think> > ASH's departure this season was even more devastating.> >>> I wonder. Many people don't realize sports are one of the best short cuts for the wealthy in elite college admissions. She said that she was rather> surprised and disappointed uponhearing abou ther character's death.> > > (Yeah, right, like I could tell if it was definitive based on a> > Usenet posting)> > Hey, you could check the guide for yourself>. [5], Lindsey represented Vanessa Brewer, a deadly assassin posing as a blind woman. Maggie Walsh was supposed to be a> motherly type to Riley. Crouse's essay has now racked up more than 3 million page views. [1], While studying at University of California, Hastings College of the Law, Lindsey was recruited by Holland Manners to the law firm Wolfram & Hart. Adam activates the chip Walsh had inserted into Riley's heart, making him biddable to Adam's command. Vampires Don't bleed or get injured5.

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