. How three storm chasers died, and what to do about it I don't think people realized how deep and strong the water was.'. People were going southbound in the northbound lanes. Were 20 of those people storm chasers? Being stuck in traffic during a tornado outbreak is obviously unfortunate, but unless you can find a way to outlaw tornado formation in cities during rush hour, sporting events, concerts, accidents,or anything else that causes traffic to snarl, getting hit by a tornado while stuck in traffic is simply a risk one assumes by living in tornado alley and choosing to drive a car. It wasn't what I would consider a traffic jam under normal circumstances, but when you have a tornado coming straight at you those seconds are important. In reply to by Tom McDonald (not verified). If you want to make this about Tim Samaras, how about you contact his family, colleagues, or friends and ask them what he would have wanted. 'My car was actually lifted off the road and then set back down,' Ms Black said. In Fridays storm, many of the deaths were caused by heavy flash flooding following the storms. 'It was chaos Everybody was running for their lives,' Terri Black, who lives in Moore, said. Renowned researcher and storm chaser Tim Samaras, 55, his son Paul Samaras, 24, and his chase partner Carl Young, 45, passed away after they were overtaken by the multiple-vortex tornado, which appeared to be in the midst of a sharp change in direction. In St. Charles County, at least 71 homes were heavily damaged and 100 had slight to moderate damage, county spokeswoman Colene McEntee said. Its a free country - youre obviously free to drive when and where you want, and I certainly dont want that to change, but something has to be done to avoid another tragedy like the one that killed 9 motorists Friday evening, including 3 professional tornado researchers Tim Samaras, his son, and intercept partner. Later analysis of the situation indicates that there was indeed a traffic jam enhanced risk for several storm chasers, caused by the ill advised comments from local media (as described below) but that this happened after Samaras and his crew were killed, in a different location, and that this happened to not cause any deaths. What was that point that I missed? In theory the helium gas should combine with the natural vortex suction and make the conditions for the tornado formation less favorable it may also be possible to deliver the helium through other methods or maybe have the helium frozen in water droplets A.K.A frozen helium crystals, and dropped from air tankers. Some of my colleagues stayed, where there is a basement. Even if we could predict hours in advance that the storms would hit a particular county (and as you correctly point out, this is not true--there may be several distinct tornadoes in a single outbreak, so it's quite possible that Oklahoma City and Enid could both be hit the same day), this would not help in a major metro area like Oklahoma City. Friday night's victims included a mother and a baby sucked out of their car as the EF3 hit near El Reno. 'That's a very unwise thing to do because it's the absolute worst place you can be during a tornado.'. But once your car is inside an F3 or F4 tornado, that is no longer your problem alone. I made the decision to go home since I have a shelter, and i was able to leave work and be home close to 4pm. These devices, which he . We cannot separate it from other compounds on earth (like we can, say, hydrogen), we cannot combine other elements to manufacture it (like we can, say, gasoline). Tim Samaras, his son Paul and colleague Carl Young died Friday night when an EF3 tornado with winds up to 165 mph turned on them near El Reno, Okla. After years of sharing dramatic videos with television viewers and weather researchers, they died chasing a storm that killed 13 in Oklahoma City and its suburbs. None of those fancy schemes work. If out of the many decades that chasers have been in the field only 3 have ever died then I'd say chasing is safer than many other dangerous events. For example, the requirement to hold a permit to chase could be limited within a certain radius of a city or residential area, where congestion is more likely to create a danger to public safety. If you watch the Discovery Channels Storm Chasers show, you will notice that as the seasons progress the professional storm chasers encounter more and more traffic as they try to move to the predicted path of oncoming tornadoes to drop data collecting probes or carry out direct intercepts (where the specially modified vehicles equipped with data collection devices are directly hit with a tornado). None of them contributes to the scientific research and experimentation going on. I'm one state north from tornado alley, and I can't imagine anyone from my state saying that it's okay to drive during a tornado alert. And, just like a tornado, the last place you want to be caught in a fire is in your car. (Football, Lacross, Motorcycle, Bicycle etc). That's what they're made for,' long-time storm chaser, David Hoadley, of Falls Church, told The Washington Post. They didn't happen to be overrun by a killer tornado at the time. Which Storm Chaser Killed Himself - BikeHike Trooper Randolph said roadways quickly became congested with the convergence of rush-hour traffic and fleeing residents. So maybe take the time to authorize a few specialists that take recreational tours storm chasing, and keep the rest of them off of the roads. Yes, lets get the facts straight, which the comments below and the information added here help do. OKLAHOMA CITY The deadly tornado that struck near Oklahoma City late last week killing 18, including three storm chasers, had a record-breaking width of 2.6 miles and was the second top-of-the-scale EF5 twister to hit the area in less than two weeks, the National Weather Service reported Tuesday. Nooooooooooo!!! This spring's tornado season got a late start, with unusually cool weather keeping funnel clouds at bay until mid-May. "He was a groundbreaker in terms of the kind of research he was doing on severe thunderstorms and tornadoes," Dr. Forbes said on The Weather Channel Sunday morning. You're an excellent writer. I've had grown adults that have lived in Oklahoma their entire lives ask me what the difference between a tornado watch and a tornado warning is. Terrible things they are! Writing new laws on the books is useless, even before the news agencies started this new trend which is disturbing you have people hiding under overpasses and pulling stupid stuff, Chasers have complained about this issue for years, notice numerous videos of truck drivers who even drive into the funnel, enforcement will be non existent because this puts law enforcement in a position of risk and is irresponsible, i agree with the tours, but again many people cannot afford the tours that are out there now and so they figure its cheaper to go it themselves, we can blame people for the groups death but the fact is that there were several unusual factors that caused this. Debris: This aerial photo shows damage in the Rolling Meadow Estates neighborhood on Friday in Broken Arrow, Okla. after a tornado had passed the area, Dangerous: Forecasters warned of a 'particularly dangerous situation,' with ominous language about strong tornadoes and hail the size of grapefruits 4 inches in diameter. I suggest that law makers in tornado alley states consider legislation making it a violation to intentionally drive into or near the path of known or likely tornados. Photo by George Johnson. But what about big storms that dont drop tornadoes? This is an . CBS from Dallas agrees with Dorothy from KC and OL from OKC. Officials added five victims on Monday to the confirmed list of dead from the tornadoes and from storms that caused severe flooding: three adults and two unidentified children, the medical examiner's office said. On Tuesday, Storm Chasers star Joel Taylor died at 38. Then we get the micro information they are hunting, reliably and in a timely manner. 'My car was actually lifted off the road and then set back down,' Ms Black said. https://twitter.com/SenJeffMerkley/status/, While perusing the New York Times over the weekend, I was disturbed to see an article by Paul D. Thacker that basically advocated using the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) to request e-mails from scientists in search of undisclosed industry ties. We MUST conserve every bit of helium that we can get our hands on. Jim Samaras said his brother, nephew and their colleague were dedicated to avoiding trouble while chasing storms, and that the family wasn't worried about whether he was taking care of himself. Helium is a precious, non-renewable resource. Or was it a rotating thunderstorm (a supercell) with small- to moderate-sized tornadoes swirling about one another? It is fairly safe to say, that Mr. Samaras, his son, and Mr. Carl Young, sustained injuries when the sub-vortex of the El Reno storm directly impacted their vehicle on Reuters Road, west of the intersection with Radio Road. To me the real imperative is to get a tornado shelter in most homes and businesses and educate the general public about what to do and what not to do. Brandi Vanalphen, 30, was among the hundreds of drivers trapped on traffic-snarled roads as she attempted to flee the tornado system menacing the suburb of Norman. (KFOR TV). An image taken from video shows the vehicle that longtime storm chaser Tim Samaras, his son Paul and colleague Carl Young were killed when a powerful tornado hit near El Reno, Okla. on May 31. Tornadoes do neither. The Oklahoma State Department of Health reported on Saturday that Oklahoma City-area hospitals treated 104 people. El Reno Mayor Matt White said that while his city of 18,000 residents suffered significant damage including its vocational-technical center and a cattle stockyard that was reduced to a pile of twisted metal he said it could have been much worse had the violent twister tracked to the north. Enough said. 1:50PM. Violent weather also moved through the St. Louis area. The debris field created by Samaras' wrecked car, the report concludes, corroborates the footage, which shows the subvortex moving across the face of the larger tornado at about the time Samaras' headlights disappear. Video taken by a number of storm chasers showed debris pelting vehiclesFriday. Tim Samaras' Death - Cause and Date Born (Birthday) Nov 12, 1957 Death Date May 31, 2013 Age of Death 55 years Cause of Death N/A Place of Death May 31, 2013 Profession Meteorologist The meteorologist Tim Samaras died at the age of 55. Continuing on Helmets here is a link to a story on yahoo:http://news.yahoo.com/tornado-coming-grab-helmet-084500057.html. The authors are Joshua Wurman, Karen Kosiba and Paul Robinson with the Center for Severe Weather Research, and Timothy Marshall of Haag Engineering, a damage-path surveyor from Flower Mound whom I interviewed for our cover story on the tornado. An engineer by training, Samaras was known for devising instruments that offered the first views inside live tornadoes. Car left in tornado with dash cam on : r/videos - Reddit 'I'm wondering if the tornadoes from a couple of weeks ago didn't frighten people so badly that this time they were taking no chances and trying to evade it by car,' said Oklahoma City Mayor Mick Cornett. I answered in good faith. Tim Samaras - Bio, Personal Life, Family & Cause Of Death - CelebsAges A two-and-a-half mile wide tornado would not look like a tornado to a lot of people, Smith said. This is not an especially enforceable regulation". We've received your submission. 'They were screaming, "We're going to die, we're going to die,"' she recalled to USA Today. However the generic advice makes a lot of sense. On the one hand, researchers have to pay the bills somehow, and this is one way to do it. What do you think? The Storm Prediction Center in Norman, Okla., said it believed the deaths were the first time scientific researchers were killed while chasing tornadoes. The cause of his death remains unclear at this time, but several of his friends shared the sad news on social media, commemorating the. Skip Talbot makes this point. Probably not. Storm chasers killed: How did it happen? - CSMonitor.com from a major non profit, click through the the X Blog to read the press release. But that. I realize you say in general terms such laws probably aren't enforceable and my question is then why make the laws? The sudden acceleration to NE caught several folks by surprise. Early aerial images of the storm's damage showed groups of homes with porches ripped away, roofs torn off and piles of splintered wood scattered across the ground for blocks. Your freedom ends at my nose if your presence endangers me. Twistex Memorial dedicated to 3 killed in El Reno. Enforcement is difficult, but not impossible. At the end of the day this is just a silly notion. " Note the comments that 22% of the fatalities at Tuscalousa were head injuries and in general a majority of tornado fatalities where head injuries. After the devastation of the Moore tornado, many residents who had experiences the storms before decided to ignore advice to stay home and tried to seek shelter elsewhere. 'There was just no place to go. "Though we sometimes take it for granted, Tim's death is a stark reminder of the risks encountered regularly by the men and women who work for us.". Alliteratively, if you are in a car and hit by the vortex of an F3 or stronger tornado, your chances of survival are much lower. Look at that video. >>> They were in a car, not a truck. Would one less car have been on that particular road had your proposed law been in place? There is no certainty. Sometimes accidents happen. Finally do what we did in California for earthquakes. An element. In fact, while writing this post I wondered what the three scientists were thinking as their car, and other cars, were hemmed in with a traffic jam that seems to have been caused by inappropriate reactions by a large number of people. Tim Samaras' Death - Cause and Date - The Celebrity Deaths Deadly profession: Storm chasers Tim Samaras (center) and crew member Carl Young (right) were killed on Friday in a tornado that ripped through El Reno, Oklahoma, Dangers: Paul Samaras, 24, (left) and Carl Young, 45, (right) were killed as they conducted research during the tornadoes in Oklahoma this weekend, On the edge: The storm chasers were killed as they followed the tornado in Oklahoma on Friday as the death toll rose to 18 today, Deadly twister: Three storm chasers were among at least 18 people killed following the tornado which touched down near El Reno on Friday. Chaser traffic, maybe. Were all the people blocking the road amateur chasers? How a zoo break-in changed the life of an owl called Flaco, Naked mole rats are fertile until they die, study finds. It encouraged all, including the media and amateurs, to chase safely to avoid a repeat of Friday's deaths. Oklahoma schools are not properly educated on how to shelter children. I don't know what Reed has ever done for science with his stuff. The worry soon turned to flash flooding and floodwaters topped four feet in Oklahoma City on Saturday morning. Yes, chaser convergance has been a huge problem over the last few years. The kitchen windows blew in and Pa slid across the kitchen floor and we hid down under the stairs! At the time that Samaras, his son, and his colleague, were crushed to death inside their tornado-chasing car, which was apparently rolled by the force of 200-300 mile an hour winds over a distance of a half mile or so, it was said by numerous news sources that this car had been trapped by a traffic jam caused by looky-loos who wanted to see the tornado and/or people sent out on the roads by a local weather reporter to "escape." Murdaugh is heckled as he leaves court, Alex Murdaugh unanimously found GUILTY of murder of wife and son, Pavement where disabled woman gestured at cyclist before fatal crash, Missing hiker buried under snow forces arm out to wave to helicopter, Insane moment river of rocks falls onto Malibu Canyon in CA, Fleet-footed cop chases an offender riding a scooter, Two Russian tanks annihilated with bombs by Ukrainian armed forces, Isabel Oakeshott clashes with Nick Robinson over Hancock texts, Do not sell or share my personal information. Invoking the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act, or RICO, a federal conspiracy law devised to ensnare mobsters, the suit accuses the organizations, as well as several green campaigners. Today three brave, highly experienced, storm chasers were honored in El Reno. Three veteran storm chasers were among the 10 people killed following Friday's EF3 tornado in El Reno, Okla. Samaras was killed along with his son Paul and storm chaser Carl Young in Friday's tornado. North Atlantic hurricanes sometimes do unexpected things as well, such as acquire a forward speed of nearly 100 km/h (the 1938 "Long Island Express" hurricane) or cross Florida twice (I'm forgetting which of the hurricanes in the last ten years did this). What if we could clean them out? Tim Samaras sits with instrument probes he used as part of his TWISTEX field research program. Though the tornadoes were not as strong as the EF-5 twister that killed 24 on May 20, fear drove many people to attempt to flee the area in their cars only to get caught up in heavy rains and flash flooding. Local news reported an estimated 1,200 people were at the airport and were herded to the basement to wait out the storm. I agree that telling people that the safest thing to do is to get in their car and drive is wrong. Dallas' independent source of The men worked as a team and Tim Samaras had received 18 grants from the National Geographic Society for work in the field. Tim Samarass strategy was never to get into the direct path of a tornado. If you want to walk down Main Street, in downtown America, you can do that, because it is America. Of those areas mentioned in this quote, Downtown OK city has about 7,600 people living in it. Are they going to fire that weather reporter who told listeners to drive into the tornado? Police have a hard enough time now dealing with emergencies, the last thing they have time to do is stop to write tickets. I'm not saying I agree with it, but this is not something he suddenly started doing. Apply that technology to license plates instead of faces. At Will Rogers World Airport, 2,000 people spent the night sheltering in underground tunnels, reported News 9. Run them through the DMV and send out those tickets. If you are directly hit by a strong tornado, ending up in the vortex, and you are in the bathtub of your home on the lower floor, youve got a pretty good chance of survival. Rather, his team would predict the path and drop machines on the ground designed to directly measure variables such as temperature, humidity, wind and so on, but with the team and their vehicles getting out of the way before the tornado comes. Its very scary I dont think a normal person can fathom just how scary. Their car was found. In his writeup of this event, meteorologist Paul Douglas made this point: Every time I went down to Oklahoma [with storm chasers] I was struck by the number of people tagging along. >>> I support this 100%. 'What we saw from the tornadoes that came through Moore and the other ones last week was that people who were in cars on the Interstate were killed,' Fallin told CNN. More than 100 people were injured by swirling debris, most with puncture wounds and lacerations, authorities said. Tornado Chaser Tim Samaras's Interview, Hours Before His Death These skeletons may have the answer, Scientists are making advancements in birth controlfor men, Blood cleaning? People found driving on closed roads are fined over $1000.00 per wheel. I was streaming the weather warnings at work throughout that afternoon, and the KOCO weather forecasters distinctly advised driving home if you could make it by 4pm and if you had a sturdy shelter at home. Do not rely on others, including the T.V. But I'll just say that I think there are less extreme solutions than putting a ban on all amateur storm chasing. The last time we had a tornado warning where I live (July 2008), several people who work in my building actually went outside to look; luckily, the tornado never came close to us, because it was the worst one in state history (it was an EF-3 that had a 50 mile ground track). Actually, to get my point all you really have to do is read the post but to restate the idea: Jamming a county road or a state or federal highway during an emergency is a public danger. I know this from my own children being in Norman public schools. It is probably true that Samaras abandoned attempts at dropping probes more often then strictly necessary, cautiously avoiding rain-wrapped tornadoes where they would not have been able to see where the tornado was, in order to be extra safe. But the agency upgraded the ranking after surveying damage from the twister, which along with subsequent flooding killed 18 people. He designed, built, and deployed instrument probes to measure atmospheric variables such as pressure and wind in the path of tornadoes. Once it's used up and gone, it's .. gone. Scientists have to accept that. Certainly broadcast public service announcements discussing the danger of chasing storms. That wasnt the only broadcaster telling people to evacuate instead of hunker down. to get jammed up. 'Tim was a courageous and brilliant scientist who fearlessly pursued tornadoes and lightning in the field in an effort to better understand these phenomena. Not only are rubberneckers prohibited from fire danger areas, even people who live in the area are prohibited from access. Also, consider that there is huge debris in tornadoes regardless of whether or not some amateur gets caught in it. Not to mention what small town or rural county has the manpower to do so when budgets are stretched so thin? Before the horrific events of May 31, 2013, when the huge El Reno tornado took the lives of scientist Tim Samaras and his crew, a twister had never killed any chasers although several had died. Since this post went live Jeff posted about another storm chaser, an amateur, who was killed in this tornado. It's just news. William Wehrum is a lawyer and once, apparently, worked for the EPA. Traffic will back up in the places rush hour traffic normally backs up, and some others that usually don't see such backups. Myers said the man left for work early Saturday and his vehicle was found empty near East Hefner Road and Dobbs Road just after 6 a.m. 'His vehicle was found washed off the road,' Myers said.
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